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Ananda
2003-04-25 09:52:41 UTC
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Ananda
2003-09-27 06:05:44 UTC
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Can anyone let me know which one is the best tool to create Indic opentype
fonts for Windows.
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Elaine Keown <elaine_keown at yahoo dot com> wrote:

> If the PUA is supposed to be left-to-right, what codes do I give the
> proposed glyphs? Do they have to have a real Unicode code point?

Any characters you assign to the PUA can have any properties you choose,
including directionality. The default LTR directionality for the PUA
doesn't mean you can't assign RTL characters to it. (You might have
trouble getting rendering engines to understand what you want, but you
get used to that working with the PUA.)

-Doug Ewell
Fullerton, California
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P***@sil.org
2003-09-28 06:02:31 UTC
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> Can anyone let me know which one is the best tool to create Indic
opentype
> fonts for Windows.

You can use any of a variety of tools for creating glyhphs, but I don't
recommend Fontographer and it has various bugs and creates fonts that have
problems. As you create the glyphs, you should also use Microsoft's Font
Validator tool to verify that there are not errors in the font.

For adding OpenType layout tables, you can use either the Adobe Font
Development Kit, or Microsoft's VOLT. There are also Perl-based tools, if
you're a Perl fan. For a visual interface, VOLT is the only option.

Again, after getting OpenType tables added, you should run the Font
Validator -- highly recommended. Adobe also has some interesting testing
tools, especially if you create fonts with CFF ("Type 1") outlines.


You can find links to these and other font tools at
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=fonttoollinks&highlight=



Peter


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Ananda
2003-09-28 10:26:39 UTC
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Thanks.
Is Adobe tools for Font Creation can be downloaded?
Mustafa Jabbar
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> Can anyone let me know which one is the best tool to create Indic
opentype
> fonts for Windows.

You can use any of a variety of tools for creating glyhphs, but I don't
recommend Fontographer and it has various bugs and creates fonts that have
problems. As you create the glyphs, you should also use Microsoft's Font
Validator tool to verify that there are not errors in the font.

For adding OpenType layout tables, you can use either the Adobe Font
Development Kit, or Microsoft's VOLT. There are also Perl-based tools, if
you're a Perl fan. For a visual interface, VOLT is the only option.

Again, after getting OpenType tables added, you should run the Font
Validator -- highly recommended. Adobe also has some interesting testing
tools, especially if you create fonts with CFF ("Type 1") outlines.


You can find links to these and other font tools at
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?
site_id=nrsi&item_id=fonttoollinks&highlight=



Peter






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P***@sil.org
2003-09-28 14:14:12 UTC
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"Ananda" <***@bdlink.com> wrote on 09/28/2003 03:26:39 AM:

> Is Adobe tools for Font Creation can be downloaded?

Yes. Look at the URL I provided:


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> You can find links to these and other font tools at
> http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?
> site_id=nrsi&item_id=fonttoollinks&highlight=
>
>
>
> Peter



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Ananda
2003-10-08 03:29:12 UTC
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In our Bijoy Bangla Software, in fact we do not have 9 vowels in the code
and keyboard(o and oo is the exception as that two character does not have
vowel signs). When someone input the characters as per Bijoy keyboard they
enter Hasanta and the vowel sign and in Unicode that two characters are
saved. Gor Ki it is Ka+Ekar but for Koi, it is Ka+Hasanta+Ekar.
When someone enters conjuncts Hasanta is in the middle. If we talk about
reducing the codes, we can do that. We do not need two codes for vowel and
vowel signs. Unfortunately basis characters like Khanda ta, Antostho Ba,
Danrhi, Dui Danrhi has not been coded, whereas we got two codes for one
characters-say for vowels.
If we leave the shaping of characters to the rendering engine do we need
those 9 codes? In reality we are also confined to the input method. As all
the coded characters can not be accomodated in the keyboard we shall have
to use Hasanta as the link.
Mustafa Jabbar
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On Tuesday 07 October 2003 12:21, Gautam Sengupta wrote:
> Is there any reason (apart from trying to be
> ISCII-conformant) why the Bangla word /ki/ "what"
> cannot be encoded as [KA][ZWJ][I]? Do we really need
> combining forms of vowels to encode Indian scripts?

I don't know what the original motivations were, but one thing about the
current (ISCII-based) encoding scheme that appeals to me is that on average
it requires fewer characters than other more natural schemes. Bangla has a
high percentage of 'vowel signs', each of which would require two
characters
in your scheme as opposed to one in the current one.

> Also, why not use [CONS][ZWJ][CONS] instead of
> [CONS][VIRAMA][CONS]? One could then use [VIRAMA] only
> where it is explicit/visible.

But this would not reflect the fact that the *glyph* [CONS][ZWJ][CONS] is
actually the same thing as the *sequence of characters* [CONS][VIRAMA]
[CONS],
i.e., [CONS][VIRAMA][ZWNJ][CONS] is also a perfectly legitimate
representation. This latter decision is one that should be taken (normally)
by the rendering mechanism (loosely speaking, the font), not the author.

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