Discussion:
Bangla: [ZWJ], [VIRAMA] and CV sequences
Anirban Mitra
2003-10-17 12:11:44 UTC
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The issues raised by Mr Gautam Sengupta is more of theoritical
nature as unicode encoding for bengali is being used for quiet some
year and some fundamental change he proposes can not be done due to
basic propositions of unicode consortium.
Mr Gautam, your contention is the new scheme will be user
friendly.But I feel character encoding has nothing to do with
user. Because user will not be processing or seeing or inputting
the unicode characters, he will be using graphemes. Inscript
Keyboard which has character equivalent as Keyboard keys are used
by few. A person who as learned typing in mechanical typewriter
will input the word 'ski' as i-matra + upper sa + lower ka. People
like me who are more convervant with ITRANS type of phonetic
keyboard will use s+k+i. Some people will input it other way. It
will be the job of the corrosponding keyboard driver to convert
both to the unicode sequence of U+09b8 U+09cd U+0995 U+09bf.

He says CV compositions should be encoded as
consonant+implicit_virama+vowel and vowel marks should be done away
with. But in when I learnt to write Bengali, I was taught the word
'kaki' (meaning aunt) should be written as 'ka-e aakaar ka-e
hrasa-i kaar'. I would want to input things in computer in the same
way which I can do with the present system.

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Gautam Sengupta
2003-10-17 13:27:40 UTC
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Post by Anirban Mitra
The issues raised by Mr Gautam Sengupta is more of
theoritical
nature as unicode encoding for bengali is being used
for quiet some
year and some fundamental change he proposes can not
be done due to
basic propositions of unicode consortium.
[Gautam]: I agree. We have been through this before.
Pls see earlier postings.
Post by Anirban Mitra
Mr Gautam, your contention is the new scheme will
be user
friendly.But I feel character encoding has nothing
to do with
user. Because user will not be processing or seeing
or inputting
the unicode characters, he will be using graphemes.
Inscript
Keyboard which has character equivalent as Keyboard
keys are used
by few. A person who as learned typing in mechanical
typewriter
will input the word 'ski' as i-matra + upper sa +
lower ka. People
like me who are more convervant with ITRANS type of
phonetic
keyboard will use s+k+i. Some people will input it
other way. It
will be the job of the corrosponding keyboard driver
to convert
both to the unicode sequence of U+09b8 U+09cd U+0995
U+09bf.
[Gautam]: Again, I agree. But we are not discussing
"user friendliness" here. We are discussing *encoding
schemmes*.
Post by Anirban Mitra
He says CV compositions should be encoded as
consonant+implicit_virama+vowel and vowel marks
should be done away
with. But in when I learnt to write Bengali, I was
taught the word
'kaki' (meaning aunt) should be written as 'ka-e
aakaar ka-e
hrasa-i kaar'. I would want to input things in
computer in the same
way which I can do with the present system.
[Gautam]: With a properly configured keyboard you
could keep inputting things the way you want
irrespective of whether we revised the encoding scheme
or left it as it is. See your own statement in
paragraph 2 of your message. Best, Gautam.

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