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[OT] Meaning of U+24560?
Patrick Andries
2003-10-12 03:54:06 UTC
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Would anyone know what U+24650 means?

Many thanks

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Chris Jacobs
2003-10-12 05:05:43 UTC
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I don't know.
I do know of course what
http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=24650 tells about
it.
But just maybe there is more?

"The worst thing about censorship is ****"

Right now I don't know if the relevant item is 24560 or 24650 or both.

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Would anyone know what U+24650 means?
Many thanks
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Patrick Andries
2003-10-12 13:52:39 UTC
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----- Original Message -----
Post by Chris Jacobs
I don't know.
I do know of course what
http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=24650 tells about
it.
But just maybe there is more?
I'm a bit lost now... I'm looking for U+24560, radical 89 (double x) and 6
strokes.
Post by Chris Jacobs
Right now I don't know if the relevant item is 24560 or 24650 or both.
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Thomas Chan
2003-10-12 19:30:59 UTC
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Post by Patrick Andries
I'm a bit lost now... I'm looking for U+24560, radical 89 (double x) and 6
strokes.
Here's the _Kangxi Zidian_ entry on U+24560, as well as U+2455F's entry,
which is referenced by the former (whose first of three definitions--the
one I suspect you are looking for--references everyday U+758F):
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John Jenkins
2003-10-12 15:46:25 UTC
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Alas, no. It's derived from "plane 15" of CNS 11643-1992, but that's
about as much as one can say, and one dreads what it might portend.
Post by Patrick Andries
Would anyone know what U+24650 means?
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Andrew C. West
2003-10-13 13:04:07 UTC
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Post by Patrick Andries
Would anyone know what U+24650 means?
Probably only Yang Xiong really knows what U+24560 means in the context of
Tetragram #9, but unfortunately he's been dead for a couple of thousand years.

Rather than bravely attempt to translate the Chinese tetragram names yourself,
which you could not do properly without having studied the original text and
commentaries in detail over many years, it would probably be safer to seek out a
good French translation of the Tai Xuan Jing, and simply use the names given
there. (Off hand I can't recommend a French translation, but I feel sure that it
must have been translated by at least one of the great 19th or early 20th
century French Sinologists). Using names which are already familiar to French
readers - even if they are not necessarily considered "correct" now - is
probably better than mistranslating the original Chinese names or producing
stilted translations of Nylan's names for the tetagrams.

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Patrick Andries
2003-10-13 14:02:44 UTC
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----- Message d'origine -----
Post by Andrew C. West
Rather than bravely attempt to translate the Chinese tetragram names yourself,
which you could not do properly without having studied the original text and
commentaries in detail over many years, it would probably be safer to seek out a
good French translation of the Tai Xuan Jing, and simply use the names given
there.
Another possiblity for which I have opted is to order the English
translation of the book that served as source and asked some assistance from
the Ricci Institute. I am unaware of a French translation of the Tai Xuan
Jing so I don't think French readers are used to any translation. Thank you
for your kind solicitude.

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